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#31 Jari Bakken and Simon Stewart on Watir 2.0, Selenium and WebDriver, Celerity and HtmlUnit

Author: Tiffany Fodor

Željko Filipin Jari Bakken Simon Stewart

Željko Filipin, Jari Bakken and Simon Stewart

Željko Filipin talks with Jari Bakken and Simon Stewart about the connection between Webdriver and Watir 2.0 (currently named Watir-Webdriver on GitHub). Webdriver is a browser automation framework that is cross-platform, cross-browser and language independent; a project which Simon Stewart is the lead developer. It is becoming the core of Selenium.

The crucial piece of this, for Rubyists at least, is the selenium-webdriver gem (written by Jari Bakken) that brings the Ruby bindings to Webdriver. Add watir-webdriver (also written by Jari Bakken) on top of that and you have what people are calling watir 2.0, a watir style-api with a webdriver core.

Webdriver related projects mentioned:

  • WebDriver and Selenium
  • Selenium docs
  • HtmlUnit

Jari Bakken’s projects:

  • Celerity
  • selenium-webdriver gem, docs
  • watir-webdriver, see also differences between Watir 1.x and Watir-Webdriver gem (aka Watir 2.0)

Podcast Timeline:

  • 00:00 – Jarib introduction
  • 01:13 – Simon introduction
  • 01:46 – Webdriver history
  • 03:22 – What about Safari?
  • 04:19 – Is Webdriver part of Selenium?
  • 05:41 – How did Jari get involved with Webdriver?
  • 07:16 – Ruby bindings for SeleniumWebdriver gem
  • 07:45 – Remote Webdriver
  • 09:30 – WebDriver and HTML Unit
  • 11:04 – HTML Unit, Webdriver, Celerity – are they separate?
  • 12:00 – Could you run Webdriver headless like Celerity?
  • 13:39 – Does every Webdriver browser driver have a maintainer?
  • 15:41 – Is ChromeDriver (by Sai) part of Webdriver?
  • 16:52 – Jari comments on additions to Watir 1.6.5
  • 18:41 – Status of Watir on Ruby 1.9
  • 19:55 – Jari talks about Watir 2.0
  • 22:15 – How complete is Watir 2.0?
  • 23:33 – Watir Unit tests and WatirSpec
  • 26:10 – How you can help with Webdriver
  • 28:00 – How you the projects mentioned

Further reading after listening to the podcast: Alan Baird and Jari Bakken on watir-webdriver.

 
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Tags: Alan Baird, Jari Bakken, Simon Stewart, Tiffany Fodor
February 2nd, 2010  |  Posted in Celerity, HtmlUnit, Watir, Webdriver  |  9 Comments »

#30 Jim Knowlton on Using Watir for Exploratory Testing

Author: Željko Filipin

Gregg Yows Željko Filipin Jim Knowlton

Gregg Yows and Željko Filipin talk with Jim Knowlton.

  • 0:00 – Music.
  • 1:00 – Introduction.
  • 4:11 – Testing security applications with Ruby and Watir.
  • 5:32 – Using IRB and Watir to assist exploratory testing of web applications.
  • 6:40 – What is exploratory testing?
  • 9:49 – Using IRB and Watir in exploratory testing session to check if HTML code of the page has comments and what is in them.
  • 11:17 – Is there browser.comments method in Watir?
  • 11:54 – The difference between ad hoc and exploratory testing.
  • 14:42 – What percentage of exploratory vs. manual vs. automated is Jim doing?
  • 15:41 – Are they doing Agile development?
  • 16:52 – How are they delivering scripts to testers?
  • 19:04 – What tool do they use for version control?
  • 20:18 – Has the management been receptive to exploratory testing?
  • 22:13 – The presentation on web security testing with Ruby and Watir.
  • 25:59 – A big thank you to Adam Goucher for suggesting Jim for the podcast.
  • 26:11 – How are they managing note taking in exploratory sessions?
  • 28:33 – An example of security testing with Watir.
  • 31:35 – What does Jim do when he is not near a computer and stuff like that.
  • 33:45 – Where people can find us on the tubes?
  • 35:20 – You can donate to Watir at watir.com.
  • 36:27 – Music.

Music in the podcast is Diggin Out by Chad Fowler.

 
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Tags: Chad Fowler, Gregg Yows, Jim Knowlton, Skype
December 16th, 2009  |  Posted in Watir  |  1 Comment »

#29 Bret Pettichord and Charley Baker on Past, Present and Future of Watir

Author: Željko Filipin

Bret Pettichord Charley Baker Željko Filipin

Bret Pettichord (Watir Lead Developer), Charley Baker (Watir Lead Developer) and Željko Filipin (Watir Community Manager) talk about the past, the present and the future of Watir.

  • 0:00 – music
  • 1:00 – introduction
  • 2:11 – Bret on what is new in Watir 1.6.5
  • 2:54 – downloads
    • gemcutter.org/gems/watir
    • gemcutter.org/gems/firewatir
    • gemcutter.org/gems/commonwatir
    • rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=104
  • 5:15 – in the year since the last release of Watir (1.6.2) more people contributed to 1.6.5 than ever before, thanks to GitHub
  • 7:40 – all Watir drivers now at watir.com
  • 9:29 – Charley on releasing Watir 1.6.5
  • 12:47 – move more gems in Watir, or separate all gems?
  • 17:00 – Watir 2.0
  • 20:50 – WatirSpec, results + todo (793 examples, 59 failures)
  • 22:29 – Celerity
  • 24:16 – FFI extension for Ruby
  • 30:10 – WatiN, Watij
  • 32:31 – Bret: “Watin is in the wrong language.”
  • 36:16 – Bret: “Selenium … does not use any special facilities from any language that it works in, and therefore it is kinda clumsy in most of them.”
  • 36:54 – summary of Watir 1.6.5
  • 38:53 – AWTA 2010
  • 39:50 – Watir 1.7 (pop ups, cookies)
  • 46:08 – API changes in Watir 2.0 (hashes, 0-based indexing)
  • 49:18 – early days of Watir
  • 54:15 – closing
  • 55:19 – you can donate to Watir at watir.com
  • 55:37 – our sites
  • 56:48 – music

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Easy to Love by Chris McMahon.

 
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Tags: Bret Pettichord, Charley Baker, Chris McMahon, Skype
December 5th, 2009  |  Posted in Watir  |  9 Comments »

#28 Tom Copeland on SafariWatir

Author: Željko Filipin

Charley Baker Željko Filipin Tom Copeland

Charley Baker and Željko Filipin talk with Tom Copeland (programmer for InfoEther, lead developer of SafariWatir, system administrator of RubyForge.org) about SafariWatir, watirspec, RubyForge.org, Gemcutter, GitHub, other podcasts Tom recorded, how to raise 7 kids…

While we were recording the podcast Tom released SafariWatir 0.3.7. While he is typing, you can hear Oh So Fabulous song in the background.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is All My Little Words. Both songs are by Chad Fowler.

 
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Tags: Chad Fowler, Charley Baker, Skype, Tom Copeland
November 1st, 2009  |  Posted in SafariWatir  |  5 Comments »

#27 Angrez Singh on FireWatir

Author: Željko Filipin

Željko Filipin Sai Venkatakrishnan Angrez Singh

Željko Filipin and Sai Venkatakrishnan talk with Angrez Singh about FireWatir, Watir and their merge, replacing JSSH with Firedriver, XPath, Firewatir-Gen, Google Summer of Code™, Bangalore Watir user group, WatiN, Indian music…

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Shankar Shakedown by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

In this episode we feature Hemal Kuntawala and uSwitch.

 
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Tags: Angrez Singh, George Sanders, Hemal Kuntawala, Sai Venkatakrishnan, uSwitch
October 1st, 2009  |  Posted in FireWatir, Watir  |  17 Comments »

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